To Bali, or not to Bali.
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The wife, 4yr old and I have a 10 night Bali trip booked, departing 18Nov. 2 nts InterCon, 4 nts in a villa in Ubud and then 5 nts in a villa in north Kuta. What with the potential for nastiness relating to any justice handed down to the bombers I was wondering what people on this forum would do......we're currently evaluating our options and trying to decide what to do. We've been several times since the DFAT warnings have been at their current elevated level, so that alone has not deterred us.
So what do you think? Go ahead or cancel pronto and go to plan 'B'?
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Re: To Bali, or not to Bali
Well, when did you book? Have things changed substantially since you booked?
My understanding is that it's not sufficiently "warned" by the govt to allow you to claim on travel insurance.
I'd actually lean on the side of not go. Especially with a 2 year old. But then i've been before, and have never been in a hurry to go back. I went to the Sari club etc, I think that psyches me out a bit actually knowing it could have been me.
I'm pretty sure Ubud would be fine, but anywhere in Kuta/Legian/Denpasar city is potentially a target.
It also depends on what you are planning for your holiday.
Big bars, tourist attractions with lots of foreign tourists - probably not the best idea. Sitting around in foyers of major western hotels would also be on my dont list.
Quiet resort, hanging by hotel pool - probably ok.
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Re: To Bali, or not to Bali
I was in Bali last month, and didn't feel uncomfortable at all...but the situation is a little different now with the impending executions. If I was single, I would probably still go. With a family and 4 y.o. in tow, I wouldn't.
If you do decide to go, and then think you will be too scared to go out anywhere, and just stay within your villa / hotel, then I wouldn't go.
If I could get most of my money back without too much cancellations fees, I definitely would be planning a holiday elsewhere! A holiday is meant to relieve stress, not be stress provoking
Yes....most unfortunate that the executions will most likely go ahead soon.....around the time of your trip. Certainly if you knew in advance of the timing you would not book, but then you have.
However in your circumstances I would still go....but avoid clubs and other areas where hundreds of Westerners are in the one small location...
Yes something bad happened in Bali...but read the news and you will see that here in Australia that we kill people from overseas on a regular basis. In Sydney recently 5 Asian overseas students were terrorised, 4 sexually assaulted...one died. On a reef trip two Americans were left to swim...and were never seen again. A Dutch tourist shot in Melbourne CBD while go to the aid ofa woman...unfortunatelt one with a shady past and an even shadier boyfriend...
In Bali...yes be prudent...and anything you do make sure it is with resident Balinese...if in doubt don't do the activity.
I have had similar to you...
Redeemed 500,000 points from Ansett 2 weeks before they went under for my family of 5...100,000 points per ticket..
Luckily it was with Singapore Airlines who said that they would still honour the Award flights despite Ansetts demise.
But the 9/11 happened....and yes you guessed it my destination was Cairo slap bang in Middle East!!!!
So to not go...but with no Ansett no way to vary or delay flights in any way.....so would just lose the flights and the 500,000 value = ouch!!!
After a bit of asking around (one of my co-workers was from Egypt and her sister was still a pharmacist in Cairo)...I decided to still go as the main problems were in Afghanistan at that time and not in Egypt.
As it turned out we had an amazing trip..backpacking around Egypt and Jordan over 7 weeks with my 3 daughters then aged 12, 9 & 6.
There were very very few westerners there...and the locals appreciated us still travelling and made us very welcome. No crowds also made visiting all the sights very easy...and also made for a cheap trip as everything was discounted.
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Re: To Bali, or not to Bali
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Originally Posted by docjames
My understanding is that it's not sufficiently "warned" by the govt to allow you to claim on travel insurance.
What is the relationship between "the govt" and travel insurance? Any decision on TI claims will be determined by the insurance company underwriting the insurance policy, and in all cases of which I am aware that is not a government entity.
What is the relationship between "the govt" and travel insurance? Any decision on TI claims will be determined by the insurance company underwriting the insurance policy, and in all cases of which I am aware that is not a government entity.
Some insurance policies have exclusions where the government has advised against travel to certain regions.
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Originally Posted by oz_mark
Some insurance policies have exclusions where the government has advised against travel to certain regions.
Which is sort-of what i was implying.
My understanding is:
If "risk" level escalates to "ADVISE AGAINST TRAVEL", and you booked prior to this change, most compnaies will allow the claim. If it's already at that level you either wont get insurance, or wont be covered for "terrorist" activities.
If risk escalates post-booking to "RECONSIDER YOUR NEED TO TRAVEL" then most policies wont allow claim.
If "risk" level escalates to "ADVISE AGAINST TRAVEL", and you booked prior to this change, most compnaies will allow the claim. If it's already at that level you either wont get insurance, or wont be covered for "terrorist" activities.
If risk escalates post-booking to "RECONSIDER YOUR NEED TO TRAVEL" then most policies wont allow claim.
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